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Just like Copa America in 2004

Brasil takes on Argentina on Sunday the 15th

Last 5 Super classico results


Brasil 3 - Argentina 1
Argentina 3 Brasil 1
Brasil 2 Argentina 2 (Brasil win 3-1 on penalties)
Brasil 4 Argentina 1
Brasil 3 Argentina 0

4 wins for Brasil 1 for them

I hope everyone who is playing shit in all the games,play good in the final
Afonso,Josue,Mineiro son on,list is long

good old classico
may be we'll do another upset to their A team and embarrass them them like in 2004.

Quem será o campeão da Copa América?
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Brasil
56.14 % - 425 votos
Argentina
43.86 % - 332 votos

Total: 757 votos

very close

the people in venezuela will have a very entertaining match there....
brazil start the tournament badly, but dunga said the successfull team must feel all from bad to good he hope final will be their peak performance.

in the other hand,
Argentina have a solid performance, from the begining till their last match. hope they can maintain it.

CLASSICO...!!!!
Go Argentina...!!!!

I love the classico games!! I wonder if it will be a repeat of the last final????

cant see past the Argies, far too strong.

yes Argentina are too strong in this cup but its a classic so anything can happen....

go brasil, argentina are stronger but barsil can make it

Messi will destroy Brazil

All Argentina need is fast strikers (which they have) (messi) and they'll have this game. Brasil has slow defenders.

Brasil
53.86 % - 10261 votos
Argentina
46.14 % - 8790 votos

Total: 19051 votos

still close

like he did last time when we played with experimental first team,it was 3-0 in London.
but with this pirate copy a Brasil team it is possible,destroy ? I don't think so. anything is possible though,Only time Argentina beat us in last few years was at their home,all others we won.

perfect name

we're in a win-win situation: if we win the final against all odds, then hooray, we defeated Argentina with the weakest Brasilian NT in over a decade. And if we lose, we get rid of Dunga. Either way, we'll have something to celebrate.

I think you won't get rid of dunga. Didn't the CBF already announce that this tournament will not affect the coaching position.

And don't be fool, Argentina will never win 4-1. IMO brasil is allways favorite outside of argentina. Brazil is allways playing better when it comes to this game. I think argentina will win, but it will be something like 2-1 or 1-0.

I don't know man,can't say we will win ,but like Galo said anything can happen in a super classico,their defense looked shaky at times in Mexico game,Mexico could not capitalize.this tragic version of the team is pathetic,many player played in every game and still underperforming.

classic,thats exactly what this team is,they wear the Brasil shirt ,like the original team but do not perform.

So Dunga didn't take this Cup very seriously? I know La Liga, Serie A lasted a long time, but he should have still brought in some more players or at least trained the team he has better.

I mean back in 2004, Brasil had nothing to lose and now it looks like no Confed. Cup for them. Looks like, but anything can happen.

he did but the top players didn't

Brasil always treat Copa America badly,it always happens in the summer,most top players want out,find excuses not to play,so we are left with player who play so so for NT or never played.then it is up to the coach to select the players besides the first team,Dunga screwed here,can't blame him much,Parreira had a B team in 2004,we stole the title from Argentina on penalties.they were very strong then too,brought in their first team.

in recent years we too first team twice,in 1997 and 1999,won both,With Ronaldo/Rivaldo and rest of the boys.

In 2001,Scolari faced the same problem,he took a bad team,he asked Romario to play but Romario made excuse and went to vacation in Mexico,Scolari never called Romario again.

MARACAIBO, Venezuela, July 12 (Reuters) - Brazil's players have rejected the idea that Argentina will start as favourites in Sunday's Copa America final.

Argentina have brought a full strength-team and have cruised to the final, scoring 16 goals on their way to winning all five games.

Brazil, on the other hand, kicked off with a 2-0 defeat against Mexico and needed a penalty shootout to beat Uruguay in their semi-final.

The defending champions are also without Kaka and Ronaldinho, who asked to be rested from the tournament.

"We can't talk about favourites before the game has even started," said midfielder Elano. "These are two great teams. Anything can happen on the day."

Anderson said: "They have excellent players with excellent quality but so do Brazil."

Assistant coach Jorginho also shrugged off the idea that Brazil start as underdogs.

"A final is a final," said the 1994 World Cup winner. "Names alone won't win the game. We feel fine and confident. We will see who are the favourites on the pitch."

Brazil met Argentina in the final in similar circumstances three years ago in Peru. On that occasion, Argentina were also favourites and Brazil were missing several regular players.

Despite that, Brazil forced a 2-2 draw and then won on penalties.

"We've suffered a lot to get here," said midfielder Diego.

"The target is the same as usual, to be champions. There are a lot of coincidences and we have to take the positive things onto the pitch."

"We hope to obtain the same success as last time. There are no favourites."

says it all

Indeed 3 years ago Argentina were in storming form, played some amazing football in the Olympics, they were great in the Copa, but defensively fragile - it cost them

Correct me If I'm wrong But I think this is the first time that Brazil is going play against Argentina with Riquelme, Messi, Veron, Zanetti, and Cambiasso in the same time. This Argentina team is better than the last one that played against Brazil in my opinion

Those five make a difference for Argentina

In my Opinion Bielsa and Pekerman were always wrong in picking their best 11 for Argentina. Basile was wrong by not using Batistuta and Crespo in the same time for Wc 2002 and Perkerman was the dumbest by leaving Zanetti, and Veron out of the team for wc 2006

At least Basile is finally picking the best Argentina team that you could get

On paper Argentina are stronger but it's what happens on the pitch that counts, as was the case in 2003

Ayala and Milito are fast defenders?

looks like it will be the same formation that started against Uruguay but the doubt is who going to replace Gilberto Silva and the most likely to replace are Elano and Fernando.

for argentina it will be the same players tha played against mexico, so tevez and messi on attack.

I see an Argie win but I hope Brazil win it.

they are no way near slow but not electrifying as robinho.

they have show on this copa america that on one on one they are slow.

looks like crespo will be fit to play on sunday

If Brazil win the final. Robinho will be the main part of there success. He's awesome.

which last time ? we beat them so many times

haha yeah brasil has done well verse argentina

Veron was shit in 2006,still is,never recovered the form when he was at Lazio

Dunga says Argentina favorites

MARACAIBO, Venezuela (Reuters) - Brazil coach Dunga on Friday declared Argentina as favorites to win the Copa America final against his team on Sunday.

"From what Argentina have done so far, they are the favourites," he told reporters. "We've done our part by reaching the final, now we have to surpass that.

"But I always want to win, this is a final and anything can happen," he added.

"We have conviction in our work, we knew it would not be easy, that there would be innumerable difficulties on the way."

Argentina have scored 16 goals and won all five games in reaching the final. Brazil, on the other hand, lost to Mexico in the early rounds and needed penalties to beat Uruguay in their semi-final.

Brazil are also without Ronaldinho and Kaka, who asked to be rested from the tournament, while Argentina are at full strength.

"Argentina is a mature team which has played together before, Brazil is a new team with only two players from the last World Cup," added Dunga.

The old rivals also met in the 2004 Copa America final in Peru, where Brazil scored with the last kick of the game to force a 2-2 draw and then won on penalties.

why rub it in

often times this is the problem with Brazil, they change players too often, there's very little or no continuity/consistency

well it's true

the 2006 WC team had continuity and consistency.

What time is kick off in Britain? I know it's 17:05 over there but I can't find a conversion table to see what time that is over here.

22:05 GMT

That's good, I'll tune in.

well lotsa of players like Alex De Souza, Diego and Rivaldo were simply not recalled after they helped Brazil qualify. Others (who weren't playing in the selecao) were chosen in their place by CAP. That's not too consistent nor continuous is it?
And after each wc you don't recall some of your original players?
surely some have retired from the nt now but many of those who haven't aren't selected any longer.
also many of he original wc 2002 nt players were either forgotten or dropped in 2006.
Now where are Gustavo Nery, Dudu Cearense, Ricardo Oliveira (much better than Vagner Love) etc...?

well, let the results speak. Best of luck to Brazil

clip of last Copa America (2004) when Brazil actually defeated a very strong Argie side. Adriano was the bomb

that 3 players only got called once and never was regular. the 2002 players was not forgotten in the 2006 team.

Carlos Alberto, 11 players he used to start

Dida... was in the 98 and 02 WC
Cafu... 94,98 and 02
Lucio... 02
Juan... none
Roberto Carlos... 98 and 02
emerson... 98
ze roberto...98
kaka... 02
ronaldinho... 02
ronaldo... 94,98 and 02
adriano... none

and i think dunga anly called dudu and i think it was CAP that has called Gustavo Nery and Ricardo Oliveira