What the hell, it deserves its own thread.
All information thanks to gsol (his common username) who is something of an expert on the subject and devotes a lot of time translating Italian articles into English.
Moggi still working for JuventusThere is a claim that Alessandro Moggi is still one of Italy’s prominent agents when GEA is actually disbanded. There are other claims in the articles that are laughable as well. The notion that Giraudo is illegitimately working abroad is a lie. He is very close to a position in England but there is nothing wrong with that since he was suspended for 5 years by the FIGC and not the English FA.
It says that Moggi is illegitimately meeting with his former judges (Ruperto and Serio) when in truth, Moggi is appealing his verdicts and has to meet with them in order to follow due process. It claims Moggi is still running Juve’s market when all they lists as proof is Secco’s admission that the two speak. Secco said on TV (in a video I have) that he is still friends with Luciano and that the two speak from time to time (Moggi always got along with Secco but less so with men like Blanc). Secco claimed that he values Moggi’s opinion and often as he has decades of experience. Bottom line is that until they catch Moggi on the phone with other directors buying and selling players for Juve…they have nothing at all. It is not against the law to express opinions and make suggestions. So far they have nothing else.
This is an attempt to distract. With the recent news that Calciopoli is going to civil courts and that the truth behind the trial may now be investigated, the culprits of the trial are running scared and trying to divert public attention and again influence public opinion. We should expect this to continue as the only thing they have left is to continue painting an ugly picture of Moggi to justify Calciopoli.
Remember public outcry was a major stimulant in the sentence…now that’s gone and they are trying to get it back.
People in positions of power- FIGC President (at the time): Franco Carraro (ex-Milan President and co owner of Lazio/Roma through his control of Capitalia Credit Bank)
- La Lega Calcio President: Adriano Galliani (Milan Vie President)
- Italian Referees Association (AIA) President: Tulio Lanese good friend and political affiliate of Silvio Berlusconi and known Milanista (known on wire taps as Tulio “miLanese”)
- FIGC Referee Designers: Bergamo and Pairetto underlings of Carraro, Lanese, and Galliani as evidenced by the wire taps…now Collina after secretly meeting with Galliani assumed that role
- Prime Minister (at the time): Silvio Berlusconi who controls several TV stations, magazines, and newspapers, as well as controlling one of Italy’s biggest political parties (Forza Italia). Through his TV station ownership Berlusconi controls all Soccer TV rights (therefore ad revenue) for all teams competing in Serie A and B (this would later be used as blackmail to keep Milan in the Champions League).
- Italian Soccer Sponsor: Tronchetti Provera (massive Inter shareholder and personal friend of Moratti) owns Telecom Italia and its sister company TIM Mobile and which not only provided Inter owner Moratti with phone intercepts but also sponsors all soccer competition in Italy (Serie A TIM, Coppa Italia TIM, Supercoppa Italiana TIM)…also owns Pirelli Tires (Inter primary sponsor) and also owns LA7 (major Italian TV Station)
- Federcalcio (FIGC Investigations) President: Borelli, a political associate of Berlusconi and discovered having meetings behind closed doors with Galliani throughout the trial
- Federcalcio Commissioner: Guido Rossi, major Inter shareholder and former Inter director also sat on Telecom Italia’s board of directors
- President of la Gazzetta dello Sport: Carlo Bore also acting as Vice President of Inter
- Editor and Chief of la Gazzetta dello Sport: Verdelli and Cannavo’ both Inter shareholders
- Vice President of Federcalcio: Massimo Moratti Inter Owner
- Current Commissioner of the Federcalcio Investigating Inter for Accounting Fraud: Stefanini acting lawyer for La Spezia soccer team (40% of which is owned by Moratti)
Games in questionGame 1: Lecce-Parma – yes you read right. The game has nothing at all to do with Juventus but this game allowed Fiorentina to survive Serie A in 2005. The ccusation is that the Moggi controlled referee De Santis fixed the match at the request of Moggi after Della Valle (Fiorentina owner) asked Moggi for help. Moggi actually can’t stand De Santis and De Santis can’t stand Juventus. It was De Santis (admitted Interista) that disallowed a legitimate Juventus goal in the Italian Supercup costing Juve the trophy and handing it to Inter wrongfully. All intercepted phone calls regarding this game showed Della Valle contacting Bergamo (referee designer) and Carraro (FIGC president) and Mazzei (FIGC Vice President) directly with no mention of Luciano Moggi.
Game 2: Juventus-Udinese – the actual “fixed” game was Udinese-Bologna the week before. The idea was for the Moggi controlled referee to give yellow cards to Udinese players that were already carrying yellow cards so that they couldn’t play against Juventus. The players handed yellow cards that day were Pinzi and Di Michele. In actual fact neither was carrying yellows and both were on the field against Juventus the following match day.
Game 3: Juventus-Sampdoria – here the accusation was that the Moggi controlled referee allowed an offside goal to stand granting Juventus a 1-0 win over Sampdoria. The game actually ended 0-1 for Sampdoria with Aimo Diana scoring an offside goal. The result can be found on espn.com still today.
To close it should be noted that both Cesare Ruperto (CAF judge) and Piero Sandulli (Federal Court judge) declared that no system of pre-planned yellow cards existed and that no game was fixed by referees. It was also expressed that referee designations occurred throughout the season regularly. In other words the season was legit. The phone calls showed unsportsmanlike conduct by all parties but this is an Article 1 offense punishable by a 1 to 3 point deduction and a possible fine.
Finally the CAF sentence declared that “though no Article 6 offense can be found in the investigation, the overall conduct of Moggi and Giraudo (the latter heard on 3-5 phone calls mostly about nothing) created an unsportsmanlike environment favorable to Juventus in the standings AS EVIDENCED BY THEIR 1ST PLACE FINISH IN THE SEASON IN QUESTION”. This is like saying that driving is proof of being a car thief. In the end the sentence tried to lead us to believe that Juventus obtained an unfair advantage in the standings without conditioning referees or fixing a single game…mysterious no?
Feel free to ask me anymore questions. By the way...there isn't a single recorded conversation between Moggi and a referee or linesmen with one exception; Paparesta called Moggi to apologize after a mistake of his cost Juventus a game against Reggina. Moggi said one line "I have nothing to say to you" and hung up.
Statistics from the 2004-05 season (Juventus stripped of scudetto)Another study was conducted and posted on this very site regarding the statistical evidence that supported (or contested) the accusations regarding referee treatment during the 2004-2005 season. This first list shows how the teams benefitted from having players who had already previously been booked, receive another yellow:
Atalanta 22
Brescia 19
Reggina 18
Inter 17
Juventus 17
Lecce 17
Livorno 17
Messina 16
Cagliari 15
Sampdoria 15
Lazio 14
Parma 14
Siena 14
Udinese 14
Chievo 13
Milan 12
Bologna 10
Palermo 9
Fiorentina 8
Roma 8
Wow…looks like Atalanta (relegated) should be under investigation. Funny how Inter was just as “favored” as Juventus here huh?
This second list shows how the teams benefitted from having players suspended during their match due to having received second yellow cards in the previous match. For instance imagine Milan playing Livorno without Lucarelli because Lucarelli got a second yellow card against say Brescia. This would count as +1 for Milan on this list:
Atalanta 30
Reggina 27
Juventus 25
Brescia 24
Lecce 23
Sampdoria 22
Lazio 22
Siena 22
Inter 21
Parma 21
Bologna 20
Livorno 19
Cagliari 19
Udinese 19
Milan 19
Messina 18
Chievo 18
Palermo 16
Fiorentina 12
Roma 11
Amazingly Atalanta is still the most favored. What’s funnier is that the team accused of “fixing” this season is actually in 3rd on the list a mere point ahead of Brescia (another relegated team) and only 4 bookings ahead of the “honest” Inter. Consider 38 matchdays at 90 minutes a piece…I think it is safe to say that there is little or no statistical significance to that difference (I’ve had to study plenty of statistics).
The third list shows overall bookings given to players the previous week. In other words, regardless of whether or not they had prior cards, if Inter plays Juventus on Sunday and Emerson had a yellow the previous Sunday against say Palermo…Inter would be at +1 (the idea is that Emerson may feel he needs to hold back to avoid a second successive booking and then suspension).
Atalanta 97
Lazio 90
Lecce 88
Cagliari 86
Chievo 86
Reggina 85
Juventus 85
Inter 83
Messina 83
Brescia 80
Udinese 80
Bologna 79
Palermo 79
Sampdoria 76
Livorno 75
Milan 75
Parma 74
Roma 74
Fiorentina 69
Siena 65
Juventus here is tied in 6th with Inter in 8th by a mere two bookings. Atalanta is still the most favored.
Looking at the 4th list shows that there was little rhyme or rhythm to the bookings. This list shows how many times a team benefitted from a player receiving a red card in the previous matchday.
Reggina 12
Bologna 9
Sampdoria 9
Siena 9
Atalanta 8
Juventus 8
Palermo 8
Parma 8
Chievo 7
Milan 7
Lazio 6
Udinese 6
Cagliari 4
Brescia 4
Livorno 4
Roma 4
Lecce 3
Inter 3
Fiorentina 3
Messina 2
Finally Atalanta isn’t in 1st anymore…but neither is Juventus. In fact they are quite close to the same Milan that was allowed to stay in the Champions League.
In the 5th list, a measurement of how many yellow cards were given to a team’s adversaries during the match was carried out. Maybe this will prove Moggi was a thief.
Roma 108
Fiorentina 97
Lazio 90
Palermo 89
Sampdoria 88
Cagliari 88
Juventus 84
Milan 84
Lecce 84
Reggina 82
Udinese 80
Siena 77
Chievo 77
Messina 75
Parma 74
Bologna 73
Brescia 73
Livorno 73
Inter 73
Atalanta 67
Looks like Juve and Milan are tied…for 7th.
List #6 is my favorite. This list shows a count of how many times a team’s adversary received a red card during the game. In other words, if Juventus was playing Reggina and Zebina got a red card it would count as 1 for Reggina.
Cagliari 11
Roma 9
Brescia 9
Bologna 8
Livorno 7
Fiorentina 7
Lazio 7
Lecce 7
Reggina 7
Palermo 6
Sampdoria 6
Milan 6
Chievo 6
Udinese 5
Siena 5
Messina 5
Parma 5
Inter 5
Atalanta 3
Juventus 2
It appears as though Juventus wound up with a man advantage all of twice throughout a 38 game season…wow. Even Inter had that advantage 5 times.
Lastly I wanted to mention a study done by two Universities regarding the 2004-2005 season. The Universita’ di Messina and Queen Mary University in London, England conducted a statistical analysis searching for a correlation between the referees under investigation and the teams under investigation. The researchers were Professor Pietro Navarra (Messina), Dario Maimone (Messina), Ansaldo Patti (Messina) Walter Distaso (London), and Leo Leonida (London). The results were posted in an edition of La Stampa on the 3rd of September 2006.
The study showed that of the four teams under investigation, only Lazio showed a statistical advantage when playing a game governed by one of the referees under investigation. Milan and Fiorentina showed no correlation at all. In other words the two teams had no greater or smaller chance of winning when these referees were officiating. Interestingly Juventus was the only team to actually show a statistical disadvantage when their game was officiated by the referees under investigation. In other words Juventus had more of a chance of losing points in games governed by the very referees they were accused of controlling!
Ignored phone calls from other clubs' employeesExample: Why did Milan get a slap on the wrist after Meani threatened a linesman over the phone
"when Milan is on the field keep your flag down unless the ball is on the opposite side of the field otherwise we'll chop your head off" - Leonardo Meani.
Do people know that there was phone tap evidence of Udinese and Milan organizing a tie? Do people know that there was phone tap evidence of Galliani and Collina meeting personally after hours at Meani's restaurant? Do people know the same man that sponsors Italian soccer through his ownership of TIM Mobile managed to intercept the phone calls that would eventually be used against Juventus? Do they know that he gave them to his partner (Moratti) illegally through a police officer who sanctioned the intercepts and then ordered that they be altered or destroyed in cases where Inter were incriminated?
Eventually a security employee at Telecom Italia confessed to the shady wire taps and the police officer killed himself on July 21st 2006 (his name was Adamo Bove). Does anyone know that the wire taps were never listened to in court despite Juventus defense requesting it? When Juventus requested to use video evidence it was denied too. People are in the dark on this case because it is convenient to many to believe that their team was losing because someone else was cheating...others are unwillingly in the dark because evidence is hard to find and hard to understand (unless you are fluent in Italian).
Why was an Inter investor and former Inter employee allowed to control the trial? This man Guido Rossi not only omitted evidence that would have cleared Juventus but discarded evidence that would have condemned his former employers (Inter).The sentencing: Moggi and Giraudo guilty of creating an enivornment to help JuventusThese are excerpts from the sentences which sent Juventus to Serie B.
First of all I want to explain the difference between an article 1 violation (points deduction) and an article 6 violation (relegation). Article one is unsportsmanlike conduct (badmouthing a ref) while article 6 is illicit activity (match fixing). Since no article 6 violations were found against Juve the CAF and FIGC did what has never been done before. The created (and later annulled) a structured article violation adding together various article 1 violations to compose and article 6 violation. This is like saying that 3 grand theft autos = a murder 1. This was widely criticized by other judges and lawyers.
I am quoting the sentences from the Commissione d’Appello Federale (CAF) and Corte Federale (CF). The key points are:
- Pg 74-75 CAF claims that there was no “cupola” or “Moggi System” contrary to the Gazzetta
- Pg 76 claims no article 6 violations against Juventus and therefore introduces the structured article violation (much disputed by many legal entities) The reason this is so scandalous is because it attempts to convince the reader that a team (Juventus) was capable of obtaining a favorable position in the standings without fixing the results of a single game. My question is how? The only way to acquire points in the standings is by winning or drawing matches. If Juve didn’t fix any matches then the standings were legit right?
- Pg 83 CAF states that referee selections were done in accordance with the rules of the FIGC therefore all the phone calls made by Moggi to designer Bergamo were legal and altered no referee selections.
- Pg 101 CAF I’m sure you heard of Moggi’s yellow card system to ensure key players were suspended for upcoming matches against Juve. On this page the sentence declares that the yellow cards were not organized.
- Pg 65 CF claims that Moggi and Giraudo operated independently of Juventus and its owners. In other words the team should have been off the hook regarding relegation and only the two directors should have been on trial (that’s the little loophole that kept Milan in the CL)
- Pg 61 CF states that Juventus was not responsible for the salvation of Fiorentina after the De Santis influenced game between Lecce and Parma that finished in a tie allowing the Viola to survive Serie A
- Pg 66 CF states that though Moggi didn’t exercise his ability to condition games, he still possessed the ability. So since you have a car and a bottle of wine you could be tried for having the ability to drink and drive?
- Pg 74 CF admits that no proof of match fixing (article 6) exists.
- Pg 77 CF finally states the proof used against Juventus “Juventus’ advantage was evidenced by their position in the standings at the end of the season”. That’s right…they were guilty because they finished first. So you driving is proof of being a car thief too. Are you laughing yet?
CF Judge Piero Sandulli had an interview in “Il Giornale” on the 27th of July 2006 where he was asked what the reasoning was behind the sentence he approved. His response was “there was no illicit activity; the 2004-2005 season was not fixed. The only doubt we had was Lecce-Parma (didn’t concern Juventus or Moggi) which we looked at again and again (with no video…whatever). In any case the season was legitimate.” I’ll just add that Sandulli has a criminal record for fraudulent activity while at Rome’s City Hall and is a die hard Lazio fan.
CF Judge Mario Serio stated in an interview in “La Repubblica” on the 27th of July 2006 that “in spite of a lack of evidence regarding match fixing, Juventus were sentenced to Serie B and stripped of their titles after taking into consideration the collective interests of the parties involved in the investigation.” All of which happened to be Interista and not just from a fan point of view. See the facebook group to see who the key players in the investigation were and how they were tied to Inter.
Note that no wire taps were heard in court. That’s right. Only pieces of transcripts were used, transcripts that have been manipulated by those that provided them to the court (see facebook group because I don’t feel like re-writing the names and confessions).
Note that no video evidence was allowed to be used by the defense (see facebook videos)
Note no witnesses were allowed to be brought forth
Note that the defense had little more than 3 days to compile their arguments and that they were not presented with the evidence prior to the trial as opposed to what the law dictates…instead the press got a hold of the prosecution’s information first. Is it any wonder? Inter VP Carlo Buare owns la Gazzetta dello Sport and it is run by two major Inter Investors (Verdelli and Cannavo’) while il Corriere dello Sport is run by Bartolozzi (Inter Team Manager). There is more on this in the facebook writings.
This is a fraction of what is out there. This is why I lose my mind when I hear that Juve are “cheaters” or that Moggi is a “criminal”.
I’ll be happy to answer whatever questions I can and provide whatever else I can through email including the actual sentences if they interest anyone.
I’ll eventually be adding the TAR appeal which Juventus mysteriously retracted hours prior to going to court. The appeal was considered to be profound enough to clear Juve’s name and crush the system that governs Italian soccer. After the appeal was retracted the FIGC publically thanked Luce di Montezemolo (FIAT Director and Ferrari President). Month’s later the same Tronchetti owned Telecom Italia (that spied on Juventus) sponsored Ferrari SpA in Formula 1.
Swiss SIM cards given to refs by MoggiAfter a year of failing to provide proof of match fixing, the Neapolitan prosecutors introduced a new argument. Allegedly Moggi provide referees with Swiss SIM cards to communicate without being spied. Since the prosecutors couldn't listen it was assumed all illegal activity could be found on those calls. Moggi and the referees responded by saying that they never made or received calls from each other. This portion of the trial is still going on.
The Neapolitan magistrates responded to Moggi and the referee’s denials by producing tables showing dates, times, and numbers called throughout the season of 2004-2005. Moggi responded saying that the numbers may have been real but the calls and tables were falsified. They all continued to deny ever having called each other. Obviously no one believed them.
As a result Moggi went on national television and claimed that through various computer programs, these tables can be falsified. He was ridiculed by the panel and the public. A week later he was invited back on the show and in an attempt to discredit him they invited a telephone company technician as well.
The technician shows how easy it is through a computer to falsify a phone call. Watch as the technician has one person on the panel shut his phone off. Then he used a computer to call another panel member with the number of the phone that is off. The number of the dead pone appeared on the recipient’s phone screen. Moggi has a certain smile on his face…the crowd remained silent.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2fSAxRNGFJMhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=vvv3qOoUA5Yhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=M6RTt5quftQhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=JciFOvfu7HQThe technician actually goes on to say that through a program called “Cambia Voce” (Voice Change), that a phone call can be made from person A to person B with the voice of person C. In other words many of the phone calls presented in court may have been of other people all together. All that is needed is a recording of Moggi’s voice. The recording then duplicates tone, volume, pitch, etc. and another person can make a call with his voice. This from the mouth of a telephone technician, he claimed he would be willing to testify.
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Paparesta Denies Receiving SIM Cards From MoggiReferee Gianluca Paparesta, who was involved in the Calciopoli scandal, has rebuffed the reports in the Italian media that he admitted receiving SIM cards from former Juventus General Director Luciano Moggi.
A shroud of mystery now surrounds the deposition made by Paparesta yesterday during the interrogation by the prosecuting attorneys of Naples, Beatrice and Narducci.
Apparently, the referee had originally admitted to them that he, and other referees, were offered SIM Cards by Moggi and Luciano Fabiani, but later on in the day, after the news had been reported throughout all media, he made a statement to Ansa, declaring that this is all false.
"I never received SIM Cards by Moggi. It's false that I confessed such a thing," declared Paparesta.
However, it is rumoured that Paparesta did admit that Moggi was always present during the yearly referee meetings, even though it is yet unclear what transpired following his latest statement.
The "Moggi locked Paparesta in the dressing room" sagaThe Paparesta deal is easy and stupid. Paparesta made terrible calls against Juventus in favour of Reggina (ignored penalty and two annulled goals). After the game Moggi went into the locker to room with Giraudo and yelled at Paparesta. It should be noted that according to league rules, directors are allowed to go into the referee locker room before and after a game but not during. In this case no harm done since it was after the game.
Moggi yelled at Paparesta and the linesmen (Coppelli who was found on the phone taking instructions from Milan's Meani on how to keep the flag down for Milan and up for others) and Di Mauro in an embarrassing fashion.
Moggi later made a crucial error. In a phone call afterwards he claimed that he locked the referees in the locker room, boarded a plane and left. Eye witness accounts including Paparesta's testimony to the court (which I have and can send to anyone interested) do not state that he or anyone else was ever trapped in a locker room. In addition, stadium surveillance recordings show Paparesta leaving at the normal hour.
Unfortunately Moggi’s attempt at sounding tougher than he was backfired as the Gazzetta got the recording and publicized it. The declaration from Chief Investigator Borelli and testimony of Paparesta himself (I have both if anyone is interested) didn’t make the headlines. Moggi’s charges for “Unlawful Detainment” of Paparesta, Di Mauro, and Coppelli were all dropped. No one wrote about it though.
The day after the game Paparesta called Moggi to explain himself. Moggi insulted him and said “non ho voglia di parlarti” (I have no desire to speak with you) and hung up. I have the call and sent it to many.
By the way, Paparesta is an admitted Milanista.
The inside job?I try and avoid talking about this stuff because it bothers me a lot.
There are two sides to the Agnelli family. There is Andrea Agnelli (who loved the triade) and the Elkan side (that loves Montezemolo [boss of FIAT]). The Elkan side wanted to assume total control of FIAT operations (including sport) and for this reason there was an internal struggle at Juventus for the last 5 years or so. I remember reading about it when I lived there so it was a while back. We all knew the Agnelli’s were no longer supporting Juventus financially because they didn’t hide it at all.
To assume control the Elkan side needed to get rid of Moggi and Giraudo because they had control of the team’s business affairs. Not only that, but the Triade was loved by the fans and had a secure position within Juventus’ shareholders. Not to mention that if they fired the Triade they would just wind up working for Inter or Milan…I’m sure you remember both teams trying to recruit them, (Galliani admitted it and Moggi went on TV with the written contract signed by Moratti and later Moggi obviously refused). They needed Moggi and Giraudo out of soccer all together. That meant they needed them suspended.
Proof 1)
In the weeks prior to the scandal, the Milan Stock Exchange registered 4 times the average transactions of Juventus’ shares. After the Italian Revenue Agency (Guardia di Finanza) concluded their investigations they noted that Special Shares were sold to hand picked (new) shareholders. These new shareholders increased the number of voters on Juventus’ shareholders panel and as a result reduced the voting power of the two biggest (individual) shareholders which were Antonio Giraudo and Luciano Moggi. This ensured that if the two refused to step down, the shareholders on the Elkan side (now outnumbering the Andrea Agnelli side) could easily vote out Moggi and Giraudo. The two didn’t even put up a fight and decided to resign rather than be humiliated further after being voted out.
Proof 2)
FIAT and its holding company IFIL did not defend Giraudo and Moggi who had to find their own lawyers. To “defend” Juventus they used FIAT lawyer Zaccone who did pretty much nothing. He was quoted numerous times stating that things “could have gone worse (Serie C) given the evidence” (speech at the Juventus Shareholders Assembly on October 26th 2006). Now that we have the evidence and questioned him on what could have sent Juventus to Serie C, he has opted to remain silent. Zaccone only woke up and defended Juventus after the other squads had their sentence reduced and were all in Serie A (one even in he CL) except Juventus. At that point Juventus decided to appeal to the Civil Court of Lazio (TAR Appeal which I can provide for anyone interested). It seemed almost as if they (Elkan group) had been betrayed by the court. Maybe Serie B with 30 points (and then 17) was not what they had agreed to. The TAR appeal was created with a fury and deposited in court. On the 31st of August Zaccone retreated and withdrew the Appeal. Weeks later Juventus’ sentence was reduced to Serie B with -9 points. No further action was ever taken. In an interview in Tuttisport on the 4th of October former Constitutional Court President Antonio Baldassarre claimed “had Juventus proceeded with their appeal in civil court, they would have likely won and as a result crushed the system that currently controls soccer in our country.” So why did they withdraw hours before standing trial?
Proof 3)
Zaccone and Cobolli Gigli stated that the pressure of the public blame that would result due to the Italian tournaments being suspended by FIFA & UEFA (including Euro qualifiers) as a result of their appeal forced certain upper management figures to change their minds at Juventus and FIAT. Who though? Who put pressure on Zaccone and Gigli (who had finally woken up) to withdraw? Sports Minister Melandri may have answered that question for us after publically thanking Luca Cordero di Montezemolo (Elkan’s right arm) after Juventus’ withdrawal from the Civil Courts. Montezemolo is a FIAT Director and more importantly the President of Ferrari SpA. During the Calciopoli trial a woman by the name of Caterina Platea (who worked with the wire transcripts under Investigator Adamo Bove) confessed not only to manipulating and destroying wire transcripts for Bove (who committed suicide two weeks after the confession) also made another shocking revelation. Montezemolo was frequently at Telecom Italia where she was intercepting calls. She admitted to seeing him coming out of the offices of Tronchetti Provera and Massimo Moratti. Why would they be meeting? We got the motive recently when Telecom Italia sponsored Ferrari SpA for millions of Euros, the same Telecom Italia that spied on Juventus and is owned by Tronchetti (also owner of Inter’s biggest sponsor Pirelli tires and the FIGC/Lega’s biggest sponsor TIM).
Fact: All Juventus personnel are now part of the Elkan side of the Agnelli family (note Tardelli and Bettega of the Triade side were let go or didn’t have their contracts renewed).
- Secco (IFIL Director)
- Cobolli Gigli (former FIAT Manager)
- Blanc (IFIL Director)
A popular theory amongst Juventini is that FIAT intend on offloading Juventus and cashing in on the sale of the team now that they own more than 60% of the team’s shares and control the team entirely. It is expected that if Juventus qualify for the Champion’s League that the team will be put to market. One of the bigger signs was the Elkan family’s 104.5 million Euro investment into the team which should have gone to player signings and salaries. It was instead used to pay off debts that resulted from their relegation (75 million) and finance the stadium that Juventus own (Delle Alpi for 20 million). Very little (less than 10 million) was used to purchase players. Most player signings this year were actually paid for with the sales of prior and current players. The decision is logical. After all, it’s easier to sell a team with fewer quality players and good books than a team with stars on the bench and debts in the bank with a busted stadium to fix. If sold FIAT could finally focus on and invest greatly in the team that has always been their priority…Ferrari. One team was sacrificed (and is still being sacrificed) for the other.
We may not have all the answers yet…but what we do know points in the direction of an inside job, a betrayal, and a compromise between the Telecom Teamsters (Moratti-Tronchetti-Rossi) and the FIAT bosses (Elkan-Montezemolo).
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This helps confirm the Inside Job I wrote about before. Many have challenged me to prove that Montezemolo and the Inter ****** are in business together. Here goes:
In recent days various newspapers like “Il Sole 24 Ore” and “ANSA” where printing excerpts of a public statement made by our very own FIAT Director Luca Cordero Montezemolo discussing his ties to Marco Tronchetti Provera at Telecom Italia.
Seems the two have a very tight knit relationship as directors of another huge Italian industrial powerhouse. The company is called CONFINDUSTRIA. Both are directors there and as always…here’s the proof.
http://www.confindustria.it/Conf2004/dbdoc...1256FAB005706A7Look at the suit next to Tronchetti…familiar last name no? It’s Moratti’s brother. Look into his history and you’ll see he used to be the Director at “Il Corriere della Sera” which confirms again how much control Inter had in the press.
The punishmentsYour missing that if that was the case Inter wouldn't have been assigned our title. That was part of Guido Rossi and Moratti's objective. Juventus were stripped of two titles but one was revoked and given to no one. The second one was never revoked it was reassigned to 3rd place Inter. Guido Rossi explained that if no team claimed that title that one fewer club would have access to the Champions League (bullshit) and since they couldn't possibly still allow Juve to go to the CL and net 25 million euros in sponsorships he assigned it to his former employers at Inter. This gave Inter and Roma automatic access to the CL rather than qualifying for it, and gave Milan and Chievo a chance to qualify. Chievo failed and were relegated at season's end.
The way they did this is so creative you have to say "only in Italy".
The punishment was spread over a three year period:
Year 1: 2004/2005 title stripped...simple, no math
Year 2: 2005/2006 91 point penalty for the "match fixing" in the prior season (only to admit weeks later didn't actually exist) which brought Juventus down to 0 points and last place in the standings, therefore relegated.
Year 3: 2006/2007 Serie B with a 30 point deduction
This ensured that Juve lost two titles and lost access to the CL as well. It gets really obvious that it was designed for the paper champions when second place Milan were handed just enough of a point deduction in year 2 to take them out of the lead in the standings (ignoring Juve) but at the same time allowing them to finish in the Champions League zone. Despite everything Galliani and Berlumerda still cried about the punishment being too harsh and how being forced to play the qualifiers was wrong.
New testimonies and Civil Court reopening Calciopoli caseThe League (under massive pressure) have decided to reopen the Calciopoli case in Civil Court in Italy. The case will override the Sports Tribunal and is set to begin in the new year with an official announcement expected as early as the 20th of December, 2007.
Though I do not trust “La Gazzetta” very much, this is a legal matter which would be hard to make up.
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Primo_Piano/...e/13/lega.shtmlWith the case being re-opened in the Italy, The European Court of Commerce through Giu Le Mani Dalla Juve’s class action appeal, and the countless public trials regarding the scandal currently set to begin (including the arrests of key Telecom figures like Ghioni and Tavarolli) for evidence tampering and illegal espionage along with the private appeals of notable figures like Moggi and De Santis it seems like the truth may be revealed sooner than expected.
It should also be noted that Tavarolli and Ghioni have recently agreed to testify against their former directors at Telecom Italia (Tronchetti and Moratti) tregarding their roles in the data collection and manipulation.
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C.....;/telecom.shtmlhttp://www.repubblica.it/2006/08/sez...i-arresti.htmlhttp://www.repubblica.it/2006/12/sez...o-mancini.htmlhttp://www.dirittiglobali.it/articolo.php?id_news=613http://ciccio.ilcannocchiale.it/?yy=2006&mm=9http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C..._arresti.shtml Few people asked if the verdit could be overturned and the answer is yes.
This is why fans and Juventus shareholders formed the Association called Giu Le Mani Dalla Juve (www.giulemanidallajuve.com). This is a legal entity created by a lawyer named Giuseppe Belvisio to appeal the verdict.
The appeal was brought to the European Court of Commerce and it has been accepted by the court.
Our main lawyer is Luc Mission who worked on the Bosman case.
Regarding the UEFA reaction...do not be afraid.
UEFA is well aware of us and even sent us a letter acknowledging us and our effort in Europe.
UEFA is entirely behind us. If we win they will pose no problems.
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The following is said to have been stated by Blatter:
Il presidente della Fifa Joseph Blatter ha rivelato all'Ansa un particolare inedito su Calciopoli: "Credo sia ora passato abbastanza tempo per poterne parlare, quando scoppiò lo scandalo, nel 2006, Luca di Montezemolo svolse un importantissimo ruolo di moderatore. E' in gran parte merito suo se la Juventus non si rivolse ai tribunali ordinari dopo le sanzioni conseguenti allo scandalo".
Question: What do you think about the above? Does Montezemolo really want Juventus to be freed from any calciopoli accusations or is their something else between the lines.?
Reply: Montezemolo is the satan of the FIAT machine. He was well aware of what his partner Tronchetti was up to and refused to defend the team. Now he wants to ensure that his own people don't turn on him.
He wasn't a moderator he was a traitor, a collaborator. A scumbag.
Calciopoli 2 is a lifeless distrction which is all smoke and no fire. The civil court proceedings will reveal a lot and Montezemolo is in trouble. Not legal trouble because he didn't do anything but within his own companied he will be seen for the traitor that he is.
Juventus is doing nothing as usual but the president of the League has had a lot of info presented to him regarding the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the original trials which were carried out in the sports justice department. He has decided to allow the Civil Court to reopen the case entirely.
