JuveJay
Aug 6 2007, 10:15 AM
Luciano Moggi has spoken out about the Calciopoli scandal, Juventus, Inter, the FIGC and the ‘real’ mafia within football.
The disgraced former Juventus director general was painted as the central figure in a system, referred to by public prosecutors as the ‘Cupola’, running refereeing favours and transfer irregularities in Italian football.
“I am the only one who really defended Juve. They went into the trial by pleading guilty to every charge and asking for a lenient sentence. I can be a lawyer too, if that’s all it takes,” accused Moggi in an interview with Italo Cucci.
“You ask me if in reality the whole scandal was a battle between the two factions of the Agnelli family? I plead the Fifth. Looking at the newspapers, there are some fractures within the family that I never even imagined.”
The fight for control of the Juve empire after the death of both Gianni and Umberto Agnelli has seen two distinct factions break out and Moggi insists the initial Calciopoli leak came from an insider who wanted him ousted.
“If Luca Cordero di Montezemolo had defended Juventus the way he is now defending Ferrari, the club would never have gone into Serie B.”
Juve were demoted after the Calciopoli scandal and initially given a 30-point penalty, eventually reduced to 11 on appeal.
“I was painted as being responsible for all the ills in the world of football. They told FIGC Commissioner Rossi that they just needed to kick Juventus out to resolve everything. When he went, the same people said nothing had changed,” continued Moggi.
“The truth is that the ‘Cupola’ is still the same as it always was with Franco Carraro at the head, swiftly followed by all the current chiefs of Italian football. Carraro was in charge before and he still is now.”
Former Federation President Carraro was initially suspended for his part in the scandal, but was later cleared on appeal.
Although he is no longer the chief of the FIGC, he continues to hold a consultation role and was part of the committee proposing Italy to host the Euro 2012 games.
Moggi was at the centre of the trial when wiretapped telephone conversations were published in the newspapers and in some cases played on radio.
“I can tell you that in the enormous number of calls they intercepted, there was nothing particularly noteworthy. What was said between Milan director Leonardo Meani and Pierluigi Collina was far worse, yet he is now a refereeing designator,” said the former Juventus transfer guru.
“I ask myself another question – why were Inter never wiretapped? The answer I give is because Marco Tronchetti Provera put the phone down.”
Moggi is here referring to the fact Inter director Tronchetti Provera is a leading figure in Telecom Italia. That is not the end of his accusations aimed at the Nerazzurri.
“The power is now centred in Milan and Inter will win the Scudetto for four years on the trot. To achieve that they had to get Patrick Vieira and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, two Juventus players I would never have sold to them.
“I will say even more – that rather than hand them over to the Nerazzurri, I would have let Juve lose money. But this is how they managed to win what they had not done in 18 years.”
Both Ibrahimovic and Vieira demanded a transfer away from Turin in the wake of Calciopoli.
JuveJay
Aug 6 2007, 10:15 AM
Find me something he says here which is incorrect.
Still questions go unanswered.
ZUMO
Aug 6 2007, 10:18 AM
Italiy is dirty through and through, from politics to football. Shame really
Avon
Aug 6 2007, 10:22 AM
QUOTE(ZUMO @ Aug 6 2007, 11:18 AM)

Italiy is dirty through and through, from politics to football. Shame really
At least they don't cover it up and turn a blind eye, which is becoming the Culture in UK politics, perhaps Sport will follow if we're not careful
Hell, Labour even apssed a bill to make it easier for Politico's to cover their tracks and avoid prosecution
Inquiries into Cash for honours/Peerages are investigated by people who they themselves have been in the know
so it's very bad corruption in the UK and all under the rug, all very unhealthy
at least with an asgressive legal mentality Italy has a chance tro change it's culture, we're going in the opposite direction
JuveJay
Aug 6 2007, 10:44 AM
QUOTE(ZUMO @ Aug 6 2007, 11:18 AM)

Italiy is dirty through and through, from politics to football. Shame really
A lot of countries are, the difference is the political mechanisms that the country has - ie all the dirty laundry is out in the open, I like it this way.
Avon
Aug 6 2007, 11:00 AM
QUOTE(JuveJay @ Aug 6 2007, 11:44 AM)

A lot of countries are, the difference is the political mechanisms that the country has - ie all the dirty laundry is out in the open, I like it this way.
The Neglish don't like it, Appearance is what counts, not the truth
sophie
Aug 6 2007, 11:06 AM
QUOTE(ZUMO @ Aug 6 2007, 08:18 PM)

Italiy is dirty through and through, from politics to football. Shame really

At least the problems in Italy are dealt with and not tossed asside and dealt with when it is an explosive situation. Credit to Italy for actualy having a somewhat sensible aproach to things.
JuveJay
Aug 6 2007, 11:22 AM
Italy is anything but sensible
Juan
Aug 6 2007, 12:25 PM
Luci Moggi makes some good points.
ZUMO
Aug 6 2007, 12:26 PM
QUOTE(sophie @ Aug 6 2007, 01:06 PM)

Don't know much about Italy do you. Sensible
JuveJay
Aug 7 2007, 11:25 AM
juvegirl
Aug 7 2007, 12:15 PM
JuveJay,,, i totaly agree with u,, moggi said nothing wronge and everything seems so right to me,,, it's all about power who have power can control everybody.. now let's see how come milan did not get punished ?? why ?? cos Berlusconi is behind them and inter has moratti and we know who he is ,, we did have moggi but we have no one now
JuveJay
Aug 7 2007, 12:22 PM
We just have to get on with it, in Italy political power is absolute, we don't have a Berlu or Galliani or Rossi or Moratti to fight our corner anymore, we have a pretty spineless new board lets be honest, they are a bunch of pussies. We have to do it on the pitch as before 'IO VINCO SUL CAMPO' and if funny decisions go in certain teams' favour we can still say Italian football is not clean but Juventus are, and they should be open to all criticism because we have been punished excessively.
juvegirl
Aug 7 2007, 12:41 PM
i'm really not worry about juve i really think the players will do a good job,, and with Alee and neddy and camo we r the best... i just want us to win the friendly matches,, and u know what, we'll win the tittle,, even if we did not i just want them to beat milan and inter to prove we'r better than them
JuveJay
Jan 15 2009, 10:50 AM
Moggi: Calciopoli is worse now 
Disgraced former Juventus director general Luciano Moggi claims “referees still favour the big clubs, but they weren’t bought off. It’s worse now than it ever was.”
He was pinpointed as the main figure behind a shadowy cabal aimed at influencing referees, which saw Juve stripped of two titles and demoted to Serie B in 2006.
Now the civil courts will begin their trial into those allegations and Moggi is going to come out fighting in an interview with RAI television programme ‘Porta a Porta.’
“Since 2006, when this whole scandal erupted, there have been more refereeing errors than between 2000-06,” insisted the transfer guru.
“If there was a plot before, then there must be one now, too. In reality, I don’t think there was a plot then or now.
“There is no such thing as referees who have been bought off. They feel intimidated by the big clubs and perhaps because of that give a few extra penalties, maybe when it’s handy and a team is 2-0 or 3-0 up.
“They want to become international referees and for that you just need a club with a Federation consultant, such as at Milan and Inter.
“Yes, it happened with Juventus too, it would be stupid to deny it, but Juventus did not seek out these favours, or should I say involuntary errors,” continued Moggi.
“However, Juve did raise the ire of the others because they won too much. For 10 years we won everything and did so with limited financial resources.
“I will not deny that these things happened to Juve, but they were not as obvious as when Inter scored and won at Siena with five players offside.”The incident he refers to was in the last Serie A game before Christmas when Douglas Maicon’s late offside strike handed Inter a 2-1 victory.
“That whole Calciopoli scandal was a joke and today I regret tending my resignation. The two Scudetti belong to Juve and should be given back.
“What is happening now with Milan and Inter is worse than what went on in the past. Last season Roma did not win the Scudetto because they were not allowed to.“On the final day Inter were losing it at Parma and Roma had made an incredible comeback to take the title. The trouble is, they were not allowed to complete the task.”The Nerazzurri introduced Zlatan Ibrahimovic as a substitute and he scored twice to conquer the Stadio Tardini 2-0, rendering whatever Roma did away to Catania futile.
Moggi also explained away the telephone wiretaps in which he suggested to designator Paolo Bergamo which referees ought to be assigned to which game.
“That was a game. I told him who was the best referee at that moment, Bergamo said yes and then would go off and do what he wanted.
“It was by no means banned and everyone talked to Bergamo, he had dinner with everybody.”http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan14q.html
JuveJay
Jan 15 2009, 10:57 AM
I dislike the guy because his careless actions left the club open to attack from all angles, and his subsequent suspended prison sentence uncovered him as a criminal in at least one sense, but I agree with a lot of what he says.
For instance if I look through match reports from the same website this article comes from then I see ten clear examples in domestic games this season where Inter have definitely benefitted from incorrect refereeing decisions, that is discounting more contentious calls, and contrasts to two which have gone against them.
The favouritism towards Milan earlier in the season was well documented, where they had a spate of strange penalties given at home, and then this was subsequently followed by two strange calls going against them.
Juventus meanwhile, without checking for sure have benefitted I would say two or three times as a big club, with not so many decisions going against us.
To sum it up referees are still being swayed one way or another, there are still people found guilty of the same crimes Moggi was found guilty for working in the game, and then the big shadow that hangs over Inter and the wiretap scandal.
JuveJay
Jan 15 2009, 11:01 AM
If you wonder what he means by 'Roma were not allowed to win the scudetto', see Rosella Sensi's comments: 'There was a centenary to respect'.
highbury lad
Jan 15 2009, 11:06 AM
shocking in what goes on over there, nothing has changed in years
JuveJay
Jan 15 2009, 11:07 AM
I will move this to the Calciopoli thread afterwards.
Moggi was on Rai Uno last night speaking about Calciopoli. He says he has 100% of the wiretap calls in his posession, contrast that to 30% of the calls being used in the Calciopoli trial, most of them about Moggi.
Insiders suggest there will be some good news heading Juventus' way after the real trial;
- The return of the two stolen scudetti
- Financial recompense up to €250m
- Other teams and their individuals being punished accordingly
There is nothing definite but many inside are quite excited and we can hope that real justice is served one way or another, but perhaps all we have is hope.
The problem really is that Moratti and co are in bed with FIAT in business terms.
JuveJay
Jan 15 2009, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(highbury lad @ Jan 15 2009, 11:06 AM)

shocking in what goes on over there, nothing has changed in years

We are trying to actually establish what goes on, because the original trial was too short to even be legal, they just wanted a quick decision to restart the league season.
highbury lad
Jan 15 2009, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(JuveJay @ Jan 15 2009, 11:09 AM)

We are trying to actually establish what goes on
the mafia wont have it
JuveJay
Jan 15 2009, 01:06 PM

The Mafia is in control of other things, like business
Funki
Jan 17 2009, 09:30 AM
QUOTE(JuveJay)
We are trying to actually establish what goes on, because the original trial was too short to even be legal, they just wanted a quick decision to restart the league season.
Still fail to understand why it didn't seem unusual that it was so short and that all the witnesses were called to testify. Perhaps my memory's wrong, just do not recall a lot of people complaining/pointing that out.
JuveJay
Jan 17 2009, 06:13 PM
It was just frantic, with people trying to get all sorts to stick on Juventus and it's players and associates. Buffon was targeted for bets made four years previously, Lippi was targeted through his son, the Cannavaro doping non-story from when he was at Parma, it was just open season.
It is ironic really because usually cases in Italy drag one for months and years, as this new Calciopoli re-enquiry will. It starts in the next couple of weeks and expect it to last until at least 2010, probably 2011.
JuveJay
Jan 18 2009, 01:25 PM
Moggi Fires Back At Sacchi Over Scudetti ClaimsThe former Juve chief has hit-out once again, claiming that Inter's Scuddetto triumph last season was not totally above board.
Former Juventus transfer guru, Luciano Moggi, has hit out at Arrigo Sacchi's recent claims over Scudetti being won on the pitch rather than off it.
Moggi is currently serving a six year ban from the game, but freedom of speech has allowed him to pour yet more scorn on the Italian game.
The former Juve director has slammed Sacchi's comments and he has reminded the ex-Milan coach that his side were also favoured by the men in black.
Moggi is still reeling from the Calciopoli accusations and he has suggested that Inter's Scudetto winning season last year may have been fixed.
"Arrigo Sacchi hopes Scudetti and Cups are won only by playing well on the field. I agree with this but Sacchi should know that it doesn't always happen like that," Moggi told
Telecaprisport."Why doesn't Sacchi explain how Roma had to succumb to Inter last season even though the Giallorossi played the best football in the league?
"Why doesn't Sacchi explain the games between Inter-Parma, Inter-Palermo and Inter-Empoli?
"And, Sacchi must not forget how many games his Milan side used to win when Franco Baresi always played with his hand up, with many offsides being given for no reason."
Moggi is appealing for the Italian justice system to investigate the Calciopoli scandal. He was tried and punished by the Italian sports justice system in 2006. Moggi alleges he never received a fair trial as a result.
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It is going to be an entertaining time ahead.
Rentboy
Jan 22 2009, 10:24 AM
Just saw the Coppa Italia game, Inter won via a clearly offside goal.
They won't be getting those sort of decisions against Man Utd that's for sure.
JuveJay
May 20 2009, 12:07 PM
Blog: Motormouth Moggi
Luciano Moggi never struggles to voice his opinion, but Scott Fleming has heard quite enough…
The only thing as inevitable as Claudio Ranieri’s sacking was who would be at the head of the queue to comment. Luciano Moggi. Every time a major issue arises in Serie A he’s there, like an all-knowing shaman summoned from his cave to spout forth his superior wisdom.
Either Moggi is exploiting his endless contacts to ensure his views are expressed promptly and prominently in the Italian Press, or the media are shrewd enough to give him a platform as they know his words are so eye catching as to cause a stir. Or both. Whatever it is it leaves a bad taste.
His appearances become particularly objectionable when he comments on Juventus. After all, if you had to identify one man primarily responsible for Juve being in the state they are in it would be Moggi.
The current administration appears inept, but they would never have been needed if Moggi’s dirt hadn’t dragged the club down to Serie B. Thus, for him to pick over the Bianconeri carcass as their season has fallen apart has been perverse, and what’s more he’s profiting from it. Perhaps he is not paid for his continuous interviews, nonetheless he is profiting in terms of his own personal currency-publicity.
In fact, the situation is curiously reminiscent of the Fred Goodwin scandal. The difference is you don’t see Sir Fred popping up every time RBS’s share price falls to sit back smugly, analyse all the organisation’s failings, and conclude that it would all be so much better if only he were still in charge.
Let’s be clear, there are those out there who respect Moggi and who question Calciopoli’s findings. But even if you did adhere to that view you would surely by now be sick of the sight of the former transfer supremo.
What’s the point in listening to his tirades on the big issues? And on each and every club’s transfer strategy when basically it all boils down to: ‘I would have done better’.
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I think people are upset that his image is still seen connected with Italian football.
The fact is, he would have done better. He is the best. Say what you want about him but when it came to football matters - transfer dealings, identifying players, finances, media, there wasn't anyone close. I can't hate the guy because of Calciopoli, it was basically a crock of shit which still doesn't make any legal sense. He made mistakes because he went too far and offended too many and left himself open for others to take advantage of him and Juventus, he got too big for his boots and all his enemies ganged up on him. There are some people who blame Moggi for the situation Juventus are in, I blame a multitude of people, Moggi is one because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
In an ideal world there would be no-one like Moggi in football but that is fiction, there are guys across the world who are the same and worse. The fact is that as a club, in a solely legal sense, Juventus were far better off with Luciano Moggi in charge than the tea boy and the volleyball director.
Let him say what he wants, if you don't like it don't listen.
QUOTE
“If Luca Cordero di Montezemolo had defended Juventus the way he is now defending Ferrari, the club would never have gone into Serie B.”
Quite fitting right now.
JuveJay
Jun 30 2009, 02:49 PM
Moggi advised Bologna
Disgraced former Juventus director Luciano Moggi has revealed he advised Bologna President Francesca Menarini towards the end of last season.
Moggi resigned from his position with Juventus in 2006 as the Calciopoli scandal engulfed Italian football.
In the aftermath of Juventus' relegation to Serie B, the FIGC banned him from football for five-years, so Moggi's revelations come as a shock.
“A couple of months ago, I simply gave myself to help President Menarini find new members for Bologna,” Moggi told Italpress.
“As for me, I have no direct interest in the acquisition of shares in the Rossoblu, but it's evident that in the case of the entry of new members signalled by me, I would opportunely cover the role of consultant,” he concluded.
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Hmmm....
Watch the swift denial from Bologna.
JuveJay
Jul 2 2009, 12:41 PM
Bologna of course say he will not join their board when his ban expires.
More from Moggi:
QUOTE
Moggi's network is intact
Luciano Moggi, the former Juventus director who was disgraced by the Calciopoli scandal, insists his network is still intact.
Earlier this week, the 72-year-old who was banned from football for five years in 2006, revealed he had been advising Bologna.
“It went like this. I arrived in Bologna and I thought: 'now I will call my old friend Renzo Menarini and ask him if he wants to go to dinner… [and he did].
“Why shouldn't he want to come to dinner with me? Is it forbidden? Or perhaps someone wants to stop me from seeing people, from talking to them, from living?”
On being told people were merely concerned he was about to return to football, Moggi said: “Why? What have I done? Did I kill? No. Did I steal? No. I only did well. To Italian football, I…”
Stopped in his tracks, Moggi was then asked if Menarini had offered him a consultancy role with Bologna.
“Who has put these stories out? Look I often go to dinner also with other Presidents. ” Moggi replied.
Asked to name them, Moggi said: “[Palermo's Maurizio] Zamparini, [Livorno's Aldo] Spinelli…”
Moggi was once again pressed if Menarini had spoken to him about a job.
“With Menarini we spoke about everything… one thing is clear. I have a five-year suspension, but anyway I could be a consultant… only that… it doesn't suit me.”
On being called a liar, Moggi replied: “I swear, I don't have the desire. Even if a lot of people call me.”
Pressed to name names, Moggi said: “Tens of Presidents and not only in Italy. If I wanted I could put the phone down now and start working again.
“My network is intact. Connections. Relationships. Friendships. Everything could start working again in a few minutes.”
When asked if he was just trying to cause a stir, Moggi replied: “Why? You journalists write allusively that I was the king of the market, but I am only someone who understands football.”
Massaging his ego, Moggi was then told how he once promised Roma Edgar Davids if Juve got Daniele De Rossi, Alberto Aquilani and Gaetano D'Agostino - who were all 18 at the time - in return.
“I had seen them play a game against Juve's Primavera, because I got around. I visited stadiums.”
Asked if he telephoned referees, Moggi replied: “I telephoned them. So what?”
Finally, Moggi said he wasn't sick and tired of being linked with the bad side of Italian football “because, in the end, I am good.”
JuveJay
Oct 22 2009, 01:03 PM
Moggi will not go to Juve meeting Luciano Moggi says he was only joking when he told a radio show that he intends to be present at Juventus' next shareholder meeting.
The disgraced former director general had said he wanted to question the new regime about their handling of the 2006 Calciopoli scandal, which brought about his downfall.
When asked if would live up to his word, Moggi replied: “No, no, I was only joking. It's true, I told a radio show that I would go with the intention of asking why [the directors] didn't defend Juventus, why they declared her guilty, what the criteria was for choosing suicide.
“Then I reflected on the matter and I decided that there is always snow in Vinovo and that it would be better to stay at home. As for the rest, I also have a bit of a cold.”
Brimming with irony and menace, Moggi went on to remind people that he still has plenty of shares in Juventus.
“I have never got rid of the shares, actually I am one of the people who possesses the most,” he laughed.
Finally Moggi gave his opinion on the Calciopoli trial in Napoli, which has hit another snag after the prosecutor general lodged an appeal following reports that one of the judges had already let their verdict be known in one of the first hearings.
“You'll have to ask the judge the reasons behind these continuous difficulties,” Moggi concluded.
http://www.football-italia.net/oct22i.html
fantasista
Dec 14 2009, 05:40 PM
QUOTE(JuveJay @ Aug 6 2007, 10:44 AM)

A lot of countries are, the difference is the political mechanisms that the country has - ie all the dirty laundry is out in the open, I like it this way.
Yep. I once read in a book, can't remember what it was, that Brian Clough was accused of match-fixing in Division Two with Derby County in the late sixties, but it was never investigated. The various investigations into bungs in English football in the eighties and nineties, in which Clough was a central figure, never went anywhere either. And this from a man who accused every team he ever lost to of cheating. The allegations of corruption in English football in 2006 never went anywhere either, with both Football League and government officials refusing to delve too deep or investigate too hard, lest they find evidence of wrongdoing.
Other countries' football leagues are just corrupt as Italy's, it's just that in Italy it seems they aren't afraid to risk damage to their game by investigating corruption. Next time Man Utd score another 95th minute winner or Darren Fletcher gets away with another awful challenge, think about that.
JuveJay
Dec 14 2009, 06:00 PM
Ironically Brian Clough went on to manage Derby against Juventus in 1973 when he claimed Juventus bribed the referee and called us 'cheating bastards'. He would know a thing or two about that after all.
JuveJay
Dec 14 2009, 06:01 PM
QUOTE(iosonocanadese @ Dec 14 2009, 05:40 PM)

Yep. I once read in a book, can't remember what it was, that Brian Clough was accused of match-fixing in Division Two with Derby County in the late sixties, but it was never investigated. The various investigations into bungs in English football in the eighties and nineties, in which Clough was a central figure, never went anywhere either. And this from a man who accused every team he ever lost to of cheating. The allegations of corruption in English football in 2006 never went anywhere either, with both Football League and government officials refusing to delve too deep or investigate too hard, lest they find evidence of wrongdoing.
Other countries' football leagues are just corrupt as Italy's, it's just that in Italy it seems they aren't afraid to risk damage to their game by investigating corruption. Next time Man Utd score another 95th minute winner or Darren Fletcher gets away with another awful challenge, think about that.
In eastern Europe, Germany, Belgium, east Asia and South America, clubs, referees and players have been found guilty of actual match fixing through cash payments in the last few years. Most people never hear about it.
JuveJay
Jan 11 2010, 12:40 PM
Moggi attacks Inter and Juve Luciano Moggi has pulled no punches, calling League leaders Inter the best of a bad bunch and attacking Juventus for the way the club is organised.
Appearing on Studio Stadio, no one was safe from Moggi's vitriol, including Inter boss Jose Mourinho.
“The Portuguese is a really lucky person. As a Coach he is little more than an amateur thrown into the fray, just like Inter's President. He's a lot better at public relations,” Moggi said.
“The Italian championship is already assigned to Inter, who are the least worst of an absolutely mediocre League. The best Italian tacticians have emigrated just like the strongest international players. By now Italian football is in full decline on all fronts.”
He then turned his attention to former club Juventus, who have been engulfed in crisis since early December.
“My Juventus was a perfectly organised club on all fronts. In Europe only Manchester United were superior to us as a whole. The current management is destroying an icon of Italian football.
“Now, you know, they are looking for wingers so they can play on the flanks? It's ridiculous. Last year they told Nedved: 'We don't need you anymore because we aren't going to play with wingers'.”
Surprisingly the only person Moggi did find time to praise was David Beckham, the former England captain who recently returned to Milan on a six-month loan from LA Galaxy.
“Milan have finally found the right balance. Once again the club has shown its organisation by supporting Leonardo in difficult moments. Beckham's return has been really good. He's an intelligent and pliable footballer,” Moggi concluded.
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Unfortunately, it's all true.
Rentboy
Jan 11 2010, 12:48 PM
All I read there is the praise Moggi has for Beckham, so it's all true, Becks really is amazing.
JuveJay
Jan 11 2010, 12:53 PM
He is an average player with a point to prove, but he takes every set piece and is a focal point so I'm sure he'll do fine.
JuveJay
Jan 18 2010, 02:22 PM
Moggi: 'I'll be back!'
Disgraced former Juventus managing director Luciano Moggi has revealed his intention to return to football in 2011.
Moggi is currently serving a five-year ban from the game for his involvement in the 2006 Calciopoli scandal, which resulted in Juventus being relegated for the first time in their history.
Speaking on Studio Stadio, Moggi said: “In the summer of 2011 my suspension will end and I will return to football. This bothers and frightens many people.”
Asked if he would be returning to Juventus, he replied: “I will never do it like Bettega with the current board which has humiliated us and tried in every way to condemn us. I don't want to have anything to do with it.
“I would return quickly if Andrea Agnelli were at the helm, also to repay the kindness of the Juventus fans whose affection I have never lacked in recent years.”
Moggi then turned his attention to Juventus's plight in Serie A. The Bianconeri lost away to Chievo on Sunday and are now out of the Champions League places.
“By now Ferrara should be sacked because it's evident that the dressing room no longer follows him and if Juventus were to lose against Roma next Saturday the crisis would become irreversible.
“Anyway I don't know who could replace Ciro on the bench, certainly not Maifredi who put himself forward some time ago on the radio. The person truly responsible for this failure is Blanc who represents the full footballing incompetency of this new club.
“Take into account that to do the deal for Paolucci he had to get Franzo Grande Stevens to telephone Siena's President in person? Paolucci, as if I had said Ibrahimovic…
“Blanc deserves to be sacked this instant! In three years he has thrown away €250m. In 12 years we didn't waste a penny of the owner's.”
Finally Moggi somewhat expectedly rounded on Italian champions and perennial League leaders Inter.
“With Juventus's destruction in 2006, by now the power is all in Milan. The Milanesi teams will continue to dominate in Italy for many years, above all Inter who have benefited more than anyone else from Calciopoli. This year an Inter without Ibrahimovic has had more difficulty scoring, but they remain the strongest team in a mediocre championship,” Moggi concluded.
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Colin
JuveJay
Jan 18 2010, 02:26 PM
Doesn't say anything incorrect, would I take the knock against our image (deserved or not) in favour of Juventus being competitive again.....hmmmm.
If Moggi started to work his magic again, who would they blame? Another Moggi system?

Blanc is just an embarassment to our club, doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
JuveJay
Jan 18 2010, 02:31 PM
juve-vn
Jan 18 2010, 02:37 PM
QUOTE(JuveJay @ Jan 18 2010, 09:22 PM)

The person truly responsible for this failure is Blanc...
I had thought he mentioned Bordeaux's coach
music_man
Jan 18 2010, 02:40 PM
QUOTE(JuveJay @ Jan 18 2010, 09:26 AM)

Doesn't say anything incorrect, would I take the knock against our image (deserved or not) in favour of Juventus being competitive again.....hmmmm.
If Moggi started to work his magic again, who would they blame? Another Moggi system?
Blanc is just an embarassment to our club, doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
Blanc's too French for Juve
JuveJay
Jan 25 2010, 12:23 PM
Moggi has said again that he is looking to return, with Andrea Agnelli running the club. More news after his trial.
He also said he had Wenger in place to replace Lippi in 2004 but Capello became available and was a steadier choice, also that he would try to get Wenger again. Good luck with that.
Prandelli should be our next coach.
JuveJay
Feb 10 2010, 11:47 AM
This guy is on tv talking about Juve every fricking day, I think it is to the detriment of the club and current directors now, with him lurking in the background.
JuveJay
Feb 15 2010, 10:38 AM
Novellino wants Moggi back
Walter Novellino believes that in order to succeed in Italy a young trainer like Ciro Ferrara or Leonardo needs a director like Luciano Moggi behind them.
The former Napoli, Torino and Sampdoria Coach was talking about the Guardiola effect, which has seen many clubs take a chance on rookie tacticians.
Speaking to Gold Sport, Novellino said: “It's a period where it's fashionable to focus on a young Coach like Guardiola, also because it means a club spends less.
“The truth is that in the end the experience of a Coach counts a lot. It makes the difference.
“Anyway, in order to win you need a great director behind you. You need a director like Moggi who protects you.
“I don't think I am exaggerating in saying that Lippi and Capello's Scudetti were 60-70 per cent down to the great work done by the Triad,” Novellino concluded.
Moggi is currently serving a five-year ban from football for his involvement in the 2006 Calciopoli scandal, which saw Juventus relegated to Serie B.
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I'm sure that will put the cat amongst the pigeons lol.
JuveJay
Mar 15 2010, 05:04 PM
Juve were built badly, says Moggi
Luciano Moggi has once again attacked the current board of directors at Juventus, criticising them for building a bad team.
Moggi left the Bianconeri in 2006 as details of his involvement in the Calciopoli scandal emerged.
Juventus were relegated to Serie B and he was banned from football for five-years.
Speaking on Studio Stadio, Moggi said: “It's a team that has been built very badly, full of suspicious tactics.
“Juventus have some very good players, but they are put on the pitch without respect for their characteristics.
“Melo is a good anchor man, but he is deployed as a playmaker. Diego is a trequartista, but he is worked as a central midfielder.
“I am convinced that the role in which he would best adapt himself, for his qualities, would be that of a second striker.
“Zaccheroni has done well in not starting him against Siena. It'll give him motivation.
“Diego has up until now not shown himself to be in a position to bear and react to the criticism.
“The draw with Siena is something of which Juventus should be ashamed. From 3-0 to 3-3 and Siena also hit the woodwork.
“Grygera's performance exceeded expectations. But perhaps the team was tired after the challenge with Fulham, but let's say yes or no that they are a midtable side in Italy…”
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Well at least he sees it, even if the club doesn't.
In other news a return for Moggi or one of his allies has been mentioned. I'd take it. Seriously, forget the controversy bollocks, if you want to get ahead in this league you need competent people with contacts.
JuveJay
Apr 12 2010, 09:44 AM
It's Mourinho's fault, says Moggi
Luciano Moggi believes it's Jose Mourinho's fault that Inter have thrown away their lead at the top of Serie A.
Inter were overtaken by Roma yesterday after spending 25 consecutive weeks at the summit of Italian football.
Speaking on Studio Stadio, Moggi said: “Inter are always the strongest team of this mediocre championship.
“They demonstrated it against Fiorentina in the second half. But the Nerazzurri are paying for Mourinho's paranoia about presumed plots, and that has ended up transmitting insecurity within the Inter camp.
“Then there are players like Julio Cesar and Chivu, to mention just two, who are not performing anywhere near their best.”
Outspoken as always, Moggi then wrote off Milan's chances of winning the Scudetto.
“Milan are inferior to Roma and Inter under all points of view and they are by now out of the title race.
“The defence isn't competitive without Nesta. Then there is physical tiredness to consider, which is borne out of the fact that this side has a high average age.”
Finally Moggi turned his attention to Juve, who he believes can qualify for the Champions League.
“The fight for fourth spot is very fierce. Samp and Palermo are playing very good football and have great motivation.
“Juventus are playing very badly, but they can still focus on fourth place. And we also need to add that UEFA would certainly be more comfortable if the Bianconeri were to qualify for the Champions League,” he concluded.
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Typical Moggi with the last comment, but as usual, he is pretty much right.
tonykart
Apr 12 2010, 07:51 PM
Moggi rules.
Fisek
Apr 12 2010, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(tonykart @ Apr 12 2010, 07:51 PM)

Moggi rules.
You too Tony! Carlo mentioned you had signed up to FC and I came over to say:
benvenuto!
JuveJay
Sep 22 2010, 09:57 AM
QUOTE
"Zamparini was speaking about power, but he needs to be more specific," Moggi told Sport Italia.
"I also saw an interview he gave to Il Corriere dello Sport in which he said we were heading back to the times of Calciopoli.
"Zamparini must say whether those involved in Calciopoli are still in it, or whether they are out of it seeing that football is getting worse."
Juventus director general Giuseppe Marotta led a staunch defence of his club following Zamparini's comments. He said: "Juventus have always won fairly."
Moggi declared his position on that belief.
"Marotta's response was congenial. Everyone knows what the problem is," he said.
"The problems came from Piedmont and everyone sat at the table because it was appetising. Getting rid of Juventus meant taking away a team with leadership, a side that allowed others freedom.
"[Claudio] Lotito said this is a new era? In the previous era he was called to judgement. Everyone should be quiet."
I wonder what he is hinting at...
JuveJay
Jan 19 2011, 07:42 PM
- Needs to stop talking what the club do down
- Needs to stop being a hypocrite, multiple examples such as 'I'd never sign Cassano' in November, to 'Juve should have signed Cassano' today
- Needs to stop pretending he could return
- Needs to shut the fuck up
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